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Offline Killer frost on: May 13, 2022, 11:36:01 am

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Nick used whilst ingame: =F2=KilleR_FrosT
Time and Date that you were banned: Two days ago i guess.
Suspected Reason (if any): community ban F1 hacks lol
IP Address:-
Admin that banned you (if known): Gohan.
Extra note:
Hi
First of all the hack for which i got banned dont even work anymore in rel006 and here is a proof of that make sure to read notepad text.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxXiVA_3Bjk

ELK said it can possibly be another lagtool or another hack, so I'd like to ask him how many of those are bound to work with F1 key? Is it not extremely stupid to ban someone becuase he pressed F1 key? LMFAO

Next question: So why was the F1 key pressed by me then? It wasnt me who pressed it on purpose, my system malfunctioned because of broken charger was causing input devices(keyboard/mouse) to reconnect, a similar example to that, you guys might know how a broken wire keyboard/mouse reacts? it discconect/reconnect often, similar thing was happening to me and my broken laptop charger caused it.Also it wasnt just F1 key, it was f1,f3,capslock and many other keys which i can prove via logs cause the menu keep appearing on screen even though i didnot pressed F3 i even discussed that with Goahan at the spot, proof: https://ibb.co/QC92Bnd
As you can see as match started right after few mints i complained about perks menu appearing on my screen even though i had no idea about it like how it even appears on my screen yet i was busy in match and noticed nothing but the the menu kept appearing on my screen but when i asked gohan he told me its linked to F3 then i decided to plug out the charger.
If you have many more keys bound you may check that too coz maybe the keys i noticed arenot the only one being pressed due to the mal functioning.
P.S: i can provide admins my charger and we can re-create the F1 presskey  things too.

Next thing: How can we prove that a system malfunction caused it? If you focus on chat, I said in chat "This fucking menu/fucking menu etc" twice, why did i said it? because the system malfunction caused F3 key to be pressed too and F3 key opens up a stupid menu in CTF, you can simply go there and confirm it.

Anyways, with the video above and argument, it think it is proven that it wasnt F1 hack and possibly not any hack associated with F1 key and the f1 key press was a system malfunctioned which not caused me a problem with menu popup too. So what is it? Desync or artifical lag(lagtool)?

to answer that, we simply recreated it, we have two video to show it, ignore the videos titles

https://youtu.be/xmCsoGkk95I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS20tnfYbDY

Now whats the next accuse? why was i breathing while playing? You guys need to admit that you are desperate enough to ban not only some but all members of F2 clan and unfair ban in many servers and not only CTF.

Apart from that:
About Ec case: https://youtu.be/JbnB_biiZ4s
My pov: https://youtu.be/0VW25d6V-0Q
Additional info: https://ec.vc-mp.net/index.php?topic=12037.msg67594#new

As seen from the video Gohan shot me at 00:12 which is literally on the last second of my standing up animation and as everyone knows this game has the worst case and over that I have ping spikes as well as you have literally 280 constant ping which makes it obvious that you can't literally just think that you can kill me on last moment lol. In my screen I was probably already gone from there. This is unexpected that a player like you who is one of the oldest player is soooo unexperienced, shame. This ban clearly looks like a desperate ban. Almost everyone faces this every time they play I am more than sure lol including myself. I don't know what you are upto and what you are doing but  you really need help. If these type of cases are considered as hacks then lets ban every next player and fucks up vcmp already dead acitivty.

About ctf Case:
I guess i explained it well but
00:42 you can clearly see that he literally shot over my body. How come this evidence is even near relevant? I wonder if you guys are feeling okay or just being desperate as fuck to ban anyone. This guy didn't even shoot my body how you just expect me to die? His shots clearly didn't sync, his shots didn't even sync on paige who was literally on my body and standing trying to go inside then how is it suppose to hit me who is literally on the floor??? Hello, common sense??? If it would have synced on paige his shots would have pushed paige out of gateway and got him inside, but nothing happened. Man, even explaining this is making me feel like I don't know what to say. Looks like people all over VCMP are now just desperate and mentally ill. Even years of gameplay couldn't bring you guys enough experience.

Looking at my past i never used any single hack in my entire vcmp journey and you expect me to use a hack in a clanwar? Which is being led by me? Bruh this line should be enough for you. I request the guy who uploaded both clips to post atleast 10 mins longer videos coz this 19 secs crap wont prove a shit  also the the clanwar day i literally died most of the time which you didnot record lol the same goes for ec.
If you have any doubts/questions lemme know cause im confident enough to prove yall wrong coz i never used any hack.
P.S: lets re create the F1 f3 pressing keys with charger again and i can record it for you. Also i can send my charger pic to any of you admins.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2022, 12:11:50 pm by Killer frost »

Offline dekO^ #1 on: May 13, 2022, 04:10:04 pm

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Nice to see you here...
First of all, who recorded this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxXiVA_3Bjk

F3 Skills/Weapon Menu doesn't desync bullets.

to answer that, we simply recreated it, we have two video to show it, ignore the videos titles
https://youtu.be/xmCsoGkk95I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS20tnfYbDY

Next time you or any of your teammates that are uploading videos for you, do this again... I wont even look at the report, because you are literally insulting me or either all the staff in the video and expecting someone to respect you...

Now focusing on your videos... In the video that you are showing your pov, I do not notice anything, F1/F2/F3 pressing.

In the second video provided by Gerz I can notice something. And it's easy to topple what you are saying.
As you explained, bullets doesn't sync if you aim thru the body.

In clanwar someone was knocked behind you, and you got knocked in the door approximately; Qarz started shooting at the guy knocked behind you, and you started to standing up, which means that in some case, qarz aim will continue aiming at you without even moving the crosshair because you are standing up; which means that the bullets that first "are desync" will start sync.

As I can see on the video of gerz he was literally aiming over your skin, and going upper, and upper, twice...
I'm pretty sure if you test it the same way it happened, it won't desync.
And here's an example of that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWK1NHsntlM



EC info doens't correspond here, we won't discuss nothing.


I will add one more thing that I told you in private.
If you don't have your POV of the CTF situation make sure that you can prove that you are innocent.

I dont know what others have to say about this but as I can analyze here you are just wasting my time and your time... (provided fake defense or the evidence towards you, as regularly Gerz do in ec).
...+ Gerz has been banned in the middle of the clan war by ELK for a suspucious activity. And personally with the past of Gerz, I won't trust any evidence from him.



All this useless text explaining about a your keyboard issues or what ever.
It doesn't prove nothing... F3 menu doesn't desynch bullets.

For future evidences, make sure the videos are of the POV of the clan war or either atleast a video of your pov.
Because all I can see here, are just videos of your friends trying to save you.
If any of the videos you will upload in the future, are videos from other players, other sync cases, let me tell you that I will instantly deny it.


PD: You asked me for a longer video of the clanwar, let me tell you something real quick.
I do not record 3 hours of gameplay to fill my entire disk with useless videos, I do have a program to record my cache, that means that when I want to get something that happened in the game, I press a key and it will instantly save the last 2 minutes.

IN THE ENTIRE CLAN WAR YOU NEVER PRESSED F1, JUST THOSE 2 TIMES I MENTIONED BEFORE, AND "CASUALLY" WHEN I WAS SPECTATING ONE OF THOSE WHERE AT THE TIME YOU WERE KNOCKED.
Try to not waste my time in the next reply.. Thanks.


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First of all, amazing work Berkley, we need more people like you in this community, people who are willing to go the extra mile to catch these cunts.

Offline Killer frost #2 on: May 13, 2022, 05:04:07 pm

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It was my clanmate who recorded it cause i have no idea how does this hack work.The video purpose was to show that f1 hack dont work in rel006 which is exactly proven by the video.

Sure i will make my pov videos now but for that i do need a partner lol who have to help me or if not you and I can try that togather in any server you want.
I recorded my pov from pc but not from laptop coz for that i need any admin to check the keys log being pressed in server( we can try that in ctf)
The video you provided is with much bigger skin i suggest you to take the lady skin and try it out also the bullets you shooting is not same spot as in the report video also the guy wasnot behind me i was behind the guy lol.

Qarz shot the other guy and he never moved his aim towards me thats the real problem.
If you have doubts on GerZ's video then sure you and i can try it in any server.

I never said about F3 menu desyncing bullets the actual problem is Qarz never shoot my body as explained in the video your pov is way too different than the actual clanwar pov.

I wont make it longer reply this time cause all i need is to prove myself innocent apart from the hatred you have towards me and as i explained to you pm we can re create both situations again you and me for more clear result in ctf or anyother server.

Offline dekO^ #3 on: May 13, 2022, 09:40:02 pm

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The video you provided is with much bigger skin i suggest you to take the lady skin and try it out also the bullets you shooting is not same spot as in the report video also the guy wasnot behind me i was behind the guy lol.
Youtube - Blue Player POV - FEMALE SKIN
Youtube - Red Player POV - FEMALE SKIN


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First of all, amazing work Berkley, we need more people like you in this community, people who are willing to go the extra mile to catch these cunts.

Offline Killer frost #4 on: May 14, 2022, 01:53:31 am

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https://ibb.co/tZ8Dgkm

Watch the screnshot and you will realize that you literally aiming at my legs and the spaz position is also wrong and so is your position on screen i wasnot in the middle of that door as shown by your video also youre aimming directly at me meanwhile Qarz aim was on skullcandy and if you notice i never lost blood in that video also Qarz spaz ran out of bullets coz he mostly shoot skullcandy instead of me also his aim is only on him.
Im gonna re create the same scenrio again.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2022, 05:33:00 am by Killer frost »

Offline Killer frost #5 on: May 14, 2022, 08:54:32 am

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I have recorded some of my pov i will post them soon and edit this reply.

Offline dekO^ #6 on: May 14, 2022, 09:04:51 am

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https://ibb.co/tZ8Dgkm

Watch the screnshot and you will realize that you literally aiming at my legs and the spaz position is also wrong and so is your position on screen i wasnot in the middle of that door as shown by your video also youre aimming directly at me meanwhile Qarz aim was on skullcandy and if you notice i never lost blood in that video also Qarz spaz ran out of bullets coz he mostly shoot skullcandy instead of me also his aim is only on him.
Im gonna re create the same scenrio again.
Now aiming at the right arm/chest...

Quote from: NewK
First of all, amazing work Berkley, we need more people like you in this community, people who are willing to go the extra mile to catch these cunts.

Offline Killer frost #7 on: May 14, 2022, 10:25:00 am

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https://ibb.co/Vxj8dXN
Starting off with the pic of main video do you see when i was on the ground Qarz bullets were on skullcandy's body and it didnot even effect me 0%.

https://ibb.co/R0tWrPh
Do you see QarZ's spaz bullets ? Its moving upside if you look closely im still on the ground and yet no effect of his bullets on me coz it common in vcmp you yourself might have noticed it.

https://ibb.co/4f8KXfn
Looking at the third ss im in halfway about to stand up but at the same time Qarz is out of bullets otherwise if he had bullets and continued shooting me i would have died.

My PoV: https://youtu.be/Qxz7OihRYpw
I have made exactly the same video as main clip and proved it again that its possible from any pov and its not any hack the bullets will definatly sync in your body when your about to get up from ground and bullets are being shot.
Man i wonder how you not know the basics of vcmp being an old and seniour guy not everyone you see is a hacker there might be a mis understanding.
I have created some other povs too but before that lemme tell you what suync and desync means.
SYNC is when you lose blood get 100% damage(low pingers might experience that)
DESYNC is when you lose the blood but dontget damage your hp doesnot decreses.
But in mycase i have never lost a single drop of blood means no bullet were even synced in my case.

Some of my other similar povs:
https://youtu.be/nzJqTMgnnI4
https://youtu.be/ffEfvAsvqME
https://youtu.be/LqjbWIe-73M

P.S: what if someone has a key who use f1 to aim with sniper or rpg? I just wanna know.
New info: + F1 hacks are loaded via .dll now, and no longer on "F1" key, they're enabled via aurora menu coz using f1 via f1 key is detectable.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2022, 11:16:30 am by Killer frost »

Offline dekO^ #8 on: May 14, 2022, 05:25:08 pm

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Now there began to be inconsistencies in your statements.

First of all, you were saying that he was not shooting at your body, that's a vcmp basic. Then you made Gerz do a false evidence on the "same" case... here's the result, gerz aiming at sky to prevent doing damage. (ignoring that both of you are insulting to me and staff members)

After that, you said it was a map bug which only happens in the door of pizza.
Then I made a gif and a video replicating the video in different places...

When you saw the video you and gerz pm'ed me like, "bro you are not in the same angle of the door, etc, etc. Do it again" , I made it again, with the same timing, 4 times in row in the same record, all bullets synced perfectly.

Again after that, you are saying that qarz aim was near the legs going with the inconsistency that on the first video of gerz, he's aiming at the sky...

Now you recorded 3 differents pov, both of those you are in the wrong angle of the door, and shooting spas too many bullets to get out of ammo earlier, and starting shooting too earlier aswell to avoid getting the damage in that buggy skin.
If you check the video of qarz again, you can see how he shot 7 bullets again, after you are knocked...

I will say one more time, don't waste my time.
Quote from: NewK
First of all, amazing work Berkley, we need more people like you in this community, people who are willing to go the extra mile to catch these cunts.

Offline Killer frost #9 on: May 14, 2022, 07:18:39 pm

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Man, it's you who is making different scenarios not me.
I am gonna make this reply of the whole thing we went on.
https://youtu.be/dpVJO-b-qbE
So, this is the video you guys banned me for. Alright, so the suspiciousness started from the F1 key, right? You think the hack is activated by F1 key? Bro are we still living in rel003 or something? You really think after all the pasts the hack still works with F1 key and players will just use it to turn the hack on and just try to get detected that easily? Well my case is different but lets say a player uses F1 key for a gameplay purpose and at same time some weird shit happened what you gonna do about that? Ban him because he used F1 key lmao? And also I remember something happened with Elawi as well in EAD times where he used a key thats for going into FPV mode as sniper / RPG but admins thought he used the key for wall hack but at last he explained and it got solved. This explains how dumb your way is of trying to catch hackers.
Now coming to the scenario where you claim that I used the hack. As you can see from the video itself at 00:42 -

that there is not a single drop of blood came out of me. So the question is if there isn't even a blood dropping out of me the entire moment of me getting back up then how you expect me to die? I am not even gonna bring up the lag or desync bullshits here because he didn't even hit me and not a single drop of blood came out so how am I suppose to even get the hit? Okay, let's even ignore that and say it was hack then why shots didn't touch paige? Even paige who was literally standing on me didn't get the shot and same for him no blood poped out of him and if he had got hit he would have been pushed inside due to spaz spam. If I am hacking then ban this paige as well. I don't even know how that shit hack works but even if I had pressed F1 key to turn it on I suppose I have to press the F1 key back again to turn it off? But I died without even pressing it back again, and how do you explain that? Dude, I don't know what you are upto but I goddamn hope you aren't doing this all intentionally because you are literally wasting mine and yours both of our time. And I believe F1 hack doesn't even work on rel006 (I believe so). I don't really know what else to add. You are saying that I am putting different scenario videos but its you who is posting different scenario. Because on your videos the blood is popping out where on the video that I got banned for not a single blood came out. And I recreated it and showed that there is a angle where if you shoot you don't get hit and bullets go through your body so it's me who is showing the exact scenario and not you.
https://ibb.co/4f8KXfn
As you can see from this SS that I already got up almost which is where the moment you could die (I KNOW EVEN ON THAT I AM SUPPOSE TO NOT DIE BECAUSE OF THE ANGLE BUT LET'S ASSUME) and you can see he ran out of bullets so he couldn't try to hit me furthermore anyway.

Offline dekO^ #10 on: May 14, 2022, 08:04:52 pm

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And you still having inconsistencies in your statements...

You said since your first post how F1 hack works in rel003, sharing a friend video;
Then you said this...
It was my clanmate who recorded it cause i have no idea how does this hack work. The video purpose was to show that f1 hack dont work in rel006 which is exactly proven by the video.


AND AFTER THAT YOU SAID THIS

New info: + F1 hacks are loaded via .dll now, and no longer on "F1" key, they're enabled via aurora menu coz using f1 via f1 key is detectable.

You are assuming that we are aware of every single hack in the comunity, or you know so much about which hacks exist in the comunity and which features all those hacks has...


I'll be honest with you...

In the past (04rel003), I have recieved every kind of hack from a clan. I Went instantly to developers and reported every kind of archive. (vcmp_hack.asi [F1], wallhack.exe, fpslimiter.exe, widescreen.exe, aimlock 0.1/.2/.3/.4 and many others) But never used any.

Also many of the scripts that has many of the servers of the vc mod today, talking about "anti cheats", keyscripts, LW also kicking users automatically because they noticed that people could overpass that, were because a player like me, thought that sometimes if you have just 1 opportunity to ban a hacker, you will do. And all the servers were safe at some point.

Where I'm going with this? In the past, regular players using hacks were not aware that admins knew that they were hacking... And less, they didn't even knew which kind of hacks were in that day around vcmp. Until every server started banning players. Then the ON wave ban appeared in the comunity, and it got totally cleaned.

But you know what? It was to late, and today, in (04rel006), I have never seen any file which contains a hack.
Never seen F1 again, and you are mentioning it, how to load and how it works...
Never seen or either mentioned Aurora file, and you are mentioning it, how to load, how it works, which file it is...


Quote from: Gohan to ELK
"Bro we are experienced players and we are admin of most of the servers, or we were, I mean... if we have doubts on this We will surely accept it's appeal and say sorry for this error, but I dont think im wrong"

He can confirm this, and also, you are not saying what ELK told you in private and still arguing to me about the "blood" that is not appearing



I think we have discussed a lot, and provided evidences from both sides. I'll proceed to lock the topic until your verdict.
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First of all, amazing work Berkley, we need more people like you in this community, people who are willing to go the extra mile to catch these cunts.

Offline Killer frost #11 on: May 15, 2022, 03:41:36 am

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Having inconsistencies in my statement is something that is underdiscussion and i was accused of i was analyizing few things that has happened to me for the first time so i had some doubts of actually how things work look now i'm not the god or something of vcmp that i'll know each minor things im analyzing things and getting to the point of how things actually works i told you im was unware of the hack that im being accused of like how this hack even work.
I asked few of server admins and some of my friends like how actually f1 thing work i showed you a video of how it worked in rel003 as i was getting more  deep in discussion i got to know the info from various player so i was keep adding it to the unabn app coz it might remove some of your doubts.
Im not aware of hacks that much coz i dont use them youre admin so ofc you will have idea about how hacks work as compared to me who didnot even knew how f1 hack work but had to collect info from various resources so that i can conclude whats exactly is happening rn.
You on the one side want me to prove myself innocent and on the other side want me not to post  "How f1 works"? WTF if i dont tell you here then where am i supposed to tell admins about how F1 works? I swear if you knew how f1 works you would have never banned me in first place cause i never used it.
Mentioning a hack and hacking in a game are different things nowadays catching a hacker is very easy cause those player mostly uses hack who either lose interest in vcmp or are newbies but i didnot lost interset in game nor a newbie to inject a hack in my game.
Yes i agree ELk told me about and i understood that but the concept of losing blood during when i was about to get up was something to be discussed the video which i actually made shows that i lost no blood but same as Qarz's video but your pov is way too different than both original video and mine.

Look man i dont wanna get anyone in trouble but a 19 sec clip not gonna prove anything i myself is a clan leader who arranged the clan war and you expect me to use a hack in that clanwar? No never i wont.
Look at my past its crystal clear find me a single report of me hacking? Ik the coincidence is very strange i myself is worried about it but i got the reasons for it and im explaining each thing line wise but if you really wanna make it sure that "i definatly used a hack then im sorry but youre wrong and doing bad to an innocent player"

https://ibb.co/fSSq1vt
In your video look at the distance of bullets from ground to my body and compared it with diatance of Qarz's video it clearly shows the discrepancy and Qarz primiraly wanted to skullcandy so his bullets even went above the table length.

https://ibb.co/R0tWrPh
Look at the scoreboard after 1st round i died for like 8/9 times with 2/3 kills which clearly shows no hack was open coz i died for a reason.
Why would i hack just not to die broooooo cmon its 2022.

https://youtu.be/Qxz7OihRYpw i reproduced exactly same as main video.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2022, 04:08:37 am by Killer frost »

Offline dekO^ #12 on: May 15, 2022, 04:22:01 am

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I'll lock this again.
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Offline dekO^ #13 on: May 20, 2022, 04:47:59 pm

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After a discussion among the staff we proceed to unban you, you have proved that it's a glitch that sometimes could happen in VC:MP.
Just make sure the next time it happens you don't press F1 when you are about to die. From now and on you are under the eye of storm.
Quote from: NewK
First of all, amazing work Berkley, we need more people like you in this community, people who are willing to go the extra mile to catch these cunts.