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Title: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Sszx on January 31, 2018, 12:52:44 pm
Thorax have recently tested aimlock with his friend nippon
(https://i.imgur.com/s7Fvvoj.png)
video link cut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RKk6LFqjUU

his conversation with nippon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUZCXlGoRiA

his convo with Thorax making aimbot unblockable:

https://imgur.com/a/bLuW0
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Sszx on January 31, 2018, 02:21:02 pm
bump
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 02, 2018, 11:21:15 am
The only reason that u can report me here are if i used aimlock in ctf or i shared it.

Are you reporting me for using aimlock in ctf server, or reporting me for distribution?
If not, there is no reason to post this shitty post again :D.


And again, i ask u to show me evidence that i shared or i used in this server, because u report on its forum

Something else may burn ur ass after finally that Thorax knew that giving aimlock to ec management was a setup since months:

https://imgur.com/a/WsmMB

:D


I always can answer to all staffs questions
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Sszx on February 02, 2018, 04:48:44 pm
The only reason that u can report me here are if i used aimlock in ctf or i shared it.

Are you reporting me for using aimlock in ctf server, or reporting me for distribution?
well yes, i am reporting you for this kind of shit, using it discretly to avoid ban in ctf and ec and if found out about aimlock, you're just gonna defend yourself by sending it to the staff.
gl, I think your ass may be the one burning now.

You've been using this shit over an year.
You were in Thorax's video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RKk6LFqjUU

and probably your dad ryne already spoken for you with ctf moderators & admins.
you're vcmp's dog at all, and a rat too.

Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Sszx on February 02, 2018, 04:59:20 pm
also
(https://i.imgur.com/3nv732F.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Rt7PJbe.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/KPOqZXF.png)
In 1st pic, is given link.
Proof you sent it same day to staff? (date must be visible)
2nd pic
He made this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RKk6LFqjUU
Thorax uploaded it on his acc ( can give vid to admin in private)
proof
https://imgur.com/a/fEej5

3rd pic
How you explain giving info to Thorax about EC staff?
You said you wanted to contribute to blocking aimlock.
Even today EC staff is asking me to share aimlock with them.
Didn't you send them? what happen?
The only reason that u can report me here are if i used aimlock in ctf or i shared it.
And again, i ask u to show me evidence that i shared or i used in this server, because u report on its forum

Something else may burn ur ass after finally that Thorax knew that giving aimlock to ec management was a setup since months:

https://imgur.com/a/WsmMB
:D

I always can answer to all staffs questions


How about, what happen to EC staff?
Question is why didn't you share the aimlock with EC staff?

Also, I had to send woodland the aimlock. He can confirm it, none else from CTF had it.
Why didn't you send Woodland or Newk the aimlock?
Tricky question: You kept it for personal use?

I don't find any true explanation of what happened there, just that you've been keeping strange activity when you had the aimlock, isn't it?
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 02, 2018, 05:52:20 pm
yeah some good questions finally.

I didnt share ec staff info with thorax, u dont have evidence.


As all know, i most of time play in ec so i didnt know who are neuk, i knew wood but i didnt want to give him so it will cunt like a sharing of hacks and may i would be banned in ec.

I gave to Aaron and Human because they are known and can handle this software and make a script as EC is now full of scripts of Anti cheats like speed hack, mute evade , etc...


So for me i gave to  ec staff and it was setup since months.


You included that i help Thorax to make aimlock better but dumbass all know that my coding level is 0.And when i said that i wanna be his friend in coding, it was to gain more trust and giving me the Source code of the hack.


More question?

BTW: Enjoy, now Thorax joined Anonimul so, it must be good for wk now.But don't worry, i still alive;)


Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 02, 2018, 05:54:53 pm
The only reason that u can report me here are if i used aimlock in ctf or i shared it.

Are you reporting me for using aimlock in ctf server, or reporting me for distribution?
well yes, i am reporting you for this kind of shit, using it discretly to avoid ban in ctf and ec .
Pig, i always ask u to give me evidence that i used, otherwise, ur report is invalid. Fuck yeah, you can't get an evidence cuz i didnt use it so now all ur project and dream is to get me banned for no reason
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: ELK on February 02, 2018, 08:01:34 pm
Look, i know all your intentions @zkq, hack part, helping part, or w/e you call it does not look like valid to me at all. The way how i see is

* you were using it smartly like the log says
* you wanted to be partners with thorax as in logs
* you used to notify thorax about the aimlock detection thingy
* you kept it as a secret but when you got to know that hunting has known all this and hes gonna somehow make trouble for you then you decided to share the mod with ec staff so that you clear up the upcoming mierdas in advance

When hunting reported you with the valid picture proofs, you started to give long statements and all the story crap like i mentioned in last thread. All this mierda and you still fail to prove your point. So, i repeat if you have something which proves that you did all this to help the community then the things may proceed in your side but if you only go by statements and crap then its not gonna help you.

EC is now full of scripts of Anti cheats like speed hack, mute evade , etc...
offtopic: the only sv i see where hackers freely play ay madri xxd

Also, I had to send woodland the aimlock. He can confirm it, none else from CTF had it.
Why didn't you send Woodland or Newk the aimlock?
None else from ctf staff has it except me and newk.

Hunting did not use the mod in ctf but we banned him here as well plus few others because we don't want those who make troubles for the community. I know theres no video record of you using the mod but still the above evidences and some from the previous thread tells a lot.

About that 'ec month setup', i will look in to it.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 02, 2018, 09:15:56 pm
Believe me i didnt use any shit in ctf, i accept a perma ban if u give me an evidence that i used in ctf.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 02, 2018, 09:18:56 pm
Lock this shit now
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: KILLERX on February 02, 2018, 09:26:09 pm
Believe me i didnt use any shit in ctf, i accept a perma ban if u give me an evidence that i used in ctf.
Dude we can forgive those users who used aimlock but not those who helped devs in developing aimlock and distributed
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 02, 2018, 09:34:14 pm
I don't know anything about developing aimlocks.

And where the hell i shared?
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: ELK on February 02, 2018, 09:44:12 pm
Believe me i didnt use any shit in ctf, i accept a perma ban if u give me an evidence that i used in ctf.

Hunting did not use the mod in ctf but we banned him here as well plus few others because we don't want those who make troubles for the community. I know theres no video record of you using the mod but still the above evidences and some from the previous thread tells a lot.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Sszx on February 02, 2018, 10:04:00 pm
email log ( from thorax)
https://uploadfiles.io/jhbw3
I think you and him were about to do something nice.
Also, as AX leaves VC:MP, he tested the aimlock in EC, it works nice.

Proof is his ban itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfZBE3sgh7Y&t=5s

How did you contribute to banning hacks in EC when it's full of crap?
I think all you used aimlock for is your own selfish reasons, like using it to 'rape WK' probably (common reason in MD).
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 02, 2018, 10:41:49 pm
email log ( from thorax)
https://uploadfiles.io/jhbw3
I think you and him were about to do something nice.
Also, as AX leaves VC:MP, he tested the aimlock in EC, it works nice.

Proof is his ban itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfZBE3sgh7Y&t=5s

How did you contribute to banning hacks in EC when it's full of crap?
I think all you used aimlock for is your own selfish reasons, like using it to 'rape WK' probably (common reason in MD).
Tell me a reason that i must be banned except shitty helping thorax to improve his aimlock which has no sens. Did i share?, did i use in this server?

I dont know why you want to lead me to a ban but i can pm admins here the log of our chat me and thorax to prove that i dont have any coding skill nor helping him to make better.

I still have fb logs anyways
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Bninin on February 02, 2018, 10:52:08 pm
wtf cheater :
(https://i.imgur.com/8Lhuzgr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/d0Mjcbu.jpg)

Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: herqules on February 02, 2018, 11:12:03 pm
I know well this type of people he can make a movie wiht his Butrthurth. he don't tire of talking too much full of lies , last time i caught his teammates madkiller using this shit of aimlock and refuse to upload video of footage during this fight.

he always wants to play the role of the victim always thinks he is right and others people stupids. 
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Hyperzon2 on February 02, 2018, 11:29:21 pm
here is no aaron or ryne or anyone of ec shity staff mami,, prepare ur ass nippon
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 03, 2018, 02:07:50 am
https://imgur.com/a/spelM

This explains everything.
About helping him to upgrade his aimlock, you see that he clearly said: start learning programming.Which means and assures that i dont help him.
About usage, you see all the other proofs.

Im sorry if the name is hided but i craped the pics to show the important stuff, i can anways re upload the pics without edit but they have no sens about the important thing.

If staff think that its edited/fake, i ll make screenshot with phone if requiered.

Im still able to reply on staff questions in pm if they wish.



Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Brian on February 03, 2018, 04:33:33 am
None else from ctf staff has it except me and newk.
@Newk @ELK
I strongly suggest you 2 to reverse engineer this tool, I'm sure Newk is capable of doing this with his scripting knowledge.
Doing so and you could try to do what I suggested on VU's forum.
I'm more than certain VCMP has a function that can see what's running in VC's background (external programs, hardware and injections alike) as this was a option back in 0.4 beta for VCMP devs to gather info.
I'm more than certain you can script something out of this with reverse engineering, another thing you might look at and see if it's possible to script is the way Google uses CAPTCHA checks (the way how a human moves a mouse compared to a computer) which I think is possible to make as well.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: vito6 on February 03, 2018, 09:43:20 am
None else from ctf staff has it except me and newk.
@Newk
I'm more than certain VCMP has a function that can see what's running in VC's background (external programs, hardware and injections alike) as this was a option back in 0.4 beta for VCMP devs to gather info.
No. But there is a trick equal such function. Server should to crash player (using some clientside code...) then just save his onPlayerCrashDump. This is an example of output http://forum.vc-mp.org/?topic=2925.msg21967#msg21967
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 03, 2018, 02:56:25 pm
To block the aimbot , you have to fix the aim function, (thats what Thorax told me)
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Sszx on February 03, 2018, 08:17:03 pm
To block the aimbot , you have to fix the aim function, (thats what Thorax told me)

stfu
the best thing you can do is take a dick in your mf mouth
about MD they are not even an address.
you may as well get banned, but even if you don't, aimlock will get banned, and I"ll surely see you around with your noobish skills instead of that aimlock private shit you've been using secretly
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 03, 2018, 09:06:15 pm
Why your ass are burned to ban me? :D


but im pro i dont use hacks  :(
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Sszx on February 04, 2018, 01:52:16 pm
but im pro i dont use hacks  :(

(https://i.imgur.com/GfeK7pf.jpg)
so pro that you ask staff not to ban you and use aimbot secretly and then call yourself pro?
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: pronoob on February 05, 2018, 11:29:39 am
So there the main question in the end.
Is it ZKQ will be banned based on information listed above or not?
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Sszx on February 05, 2018, 12:21:54 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/XjN6Mv4.png)

never used hacks?
queen of vcmp?
lmao xD
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Sszx on February 05, 2018, 01:35:06 pm
here is how that video made by thorax was actually made:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RKk6LFqjUU
(https://i.imgur.com/hqYhboq.jpg)

thorax invited zkq to that server to test the aimlock for a video.
as you can clearly see thorax and nippon were the ones playing in that video ( i can give link)
(https://i.imgur.com/Tl9vfPj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8wQWrg3.jpg)

more info about aimbot using and making it unable to detect. ^^
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 05, 2018, 06:41:40 pm
I can provide my evidences oh phone screenshots if they ask me, (i ll post full video ).   I really don't care if i get banned here even if its fake reason but i wanna prove that im clean.  Just i wait for staff questions
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: NewK on February 06, 2018, 03:44:52 am
@Brian, thanks for your suggestions but this wouldn't be possible. I mean, yes, the vcmp client certainly has a function to get running processes but we have no access to it from the scripts. If you're suggesting that we'd have to manually patch the client (which is no easy task without the source code) that wouldn't work either because this altered version the client would need to be installed and executed by all players and of course hackers are not going to go for this  :P

vito's suggestion to get the running processes might work but doesn't seem very practical to me. We would need to crash players on purpose just to get that crash log so they wouldn't really be able to play. Unless we're  talking about soft client side crashes (the ones that don't fully kill the game but generate a crashlog), but I'm not sure if those crashes trigger the server side OnPlayerCrashDump event, I haven't tested. But even if they did tho, this could be easily bypassed by players if they simply changed the .exe name of the hack file. Measuring mouse movement is possible after each shot on the client although this would probably catch alot of false positives. One could also check if the shot hit the body of the other player (I'm aware there's aready a  script that does this) but this wouldn't really detect the aimlock version that has lead aim. Because those shots don't hit the body.

@Zkq
This picture alone proves usage:
(https://i.imgur.com/Rt7PJbe.png)
"don't tell anyone that I use aimlock"

Explain that.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Brian on February 06, 2018, 05:07:25 am
Measuring mouse movement is possible after each shot on the client although this would probably catch alot of false positives. One could also check if the shot hit the body of the other player (I'm aware there's aready a  script that does this) but this wouldn't really detect the aimlock version that has lead aim. Because those shots don't hit the body.
This seems to be the most feasible solution currently imo, isn't it possible to script a copy of Google's CAPTCHA?
You don't necessarily have to have a integral of 'did he hit said person in the head or not' it's just simply mouse movement you need to be looking at.
Even with a lead aim aimlock, it would still be detectable due to the fact that a computer can't aim like a human does and vice versa.
The only problem that might occur is the fact that said script would be working on time intervals which means that you will have to have this run and check at like 1000 times a second to make it viable.
Is this feasible? I don't know. Is this going to impact server/script performance? I don't know.
It needs testing but I'm certain that this would be the easiest way to go about it.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: vito69 on February 06, 2018, 06:53:22 am
vito's suggestion to get the running processes might work but doesn't seem very practical to me.
It wasn't a suggestion to aimlock problem, it was just a comment to Brian's post. It's wont help to detect any cheat. Mainly it's detecting .asi and may be used as one factor to finding ban evaders.
but I'm not sure if those crashes trigger the server side OnPlayerCrashDump event, I haven't tested. But even if they did tho, this could be easily bypassed by players if they simply changed the .exe name of the hack file.
It's sending to server OnPlayerCrashDump, even with game_reportcrashes 0 in user's config. I've tested it with few hacks. And about .exe's hacks - some of it not even listed there. However it may be useful as I said above.
Measuring mouse movement is possible after each shot
Each frame.

Actually Brian's idea about tracking mouse/aim is good for this aimlock and future versions, but there is a bit more background to build such system.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 06, 2018, 05:11:55 pm
Already explained more than 1000 times who the '' you know why i stopped using the aimlock'' was to tell him that when i got how to use the shit i stopped using. I never used in servers against players and i challenge you to show me a single video about me using aimlock against players.

Check this: https://imgur.com/a/spelM   this is what i said and i still say it.

The only thing that i can do now is to give the same evidences in phone screenshot or video without edit, otherwise i have nothing to say.


Staff can always ask me and i can reply honestly, if not, yeah go ban me for no reason to make hunting and thorax happy. I don't care about getting ban in ctf, but at least show me a good reason to ban me, not fake shits.


I proved that i can't help thorax to make his aimlock better because of  reasons:

1st one: He is with WK and scripts with anonimul and he will never need anyone else because anonimul is known as a good hack scripter. 
2nd one: You see he said clearly that i go start learning programming .   So , no doubts to trust me that i cant help him at all, or at least, even if know, show  me at least a single code that i sent to him. The response will be :NONE, because its true what i say. I dont have any coding skill and even if i had, i would start making a detector by myself and put an end to the story.


For usage: i explained it already.   If you want , go and ban me, but i assure that i didnt use it anywhere against players in any server except testing alone.  Thats all, now  if u want to make hunting happy, go and ban me. i dont care about this server but i care about my name in vcmp :) .
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 06, 2018, 05:19:07 pm
I wont reply to anyone except to staff members, idc about the haters because they will always repeat the same thing


For all to know: I perma removed the aimlocks from my pc, so now i have nothing and i learnt to stop dealing with hackers. Learnt and never will deal with hackers, just i gave aimlock to ec staff and made me in this problem, i wont do anything again anymore.

Now, staff can say anything i ll not refuse, I assure that the  pics: https://imgur.com/a/spelM  are real and not edited, so now its up to you.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: vito69 on February 06, 2018, 05:23:02 pm
is it Forlove is MIMO? :-\
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 06, 2018, 05:29:36 pm
im zkq
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 06, 2018, 05:37:01 pm
Someone locks this topic until last decision or for staff questions? i will reply in pm, just im bored to reply everytime
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Hyperzon2 on February 06, 2018, 06:47:05 pm
Thats all, now  if u want to make hunting happy, go and ban me. i dont care about this server
lole if u dont care about ban in this server why typing all of this lies and all of this shit, shut ur ass till the staff make a decision

  but i care about my name in vcmp :) .
loool ur name XDDD u're just an 2016player, whats name u're talking about as i said before, m8 neither aaron and ryne and other EC's shity staff.. can protect ur ass HERE mami , just go enjoy some sushi till u find ur ass banned :']]]]
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 06, 2018, 07:54:07 pm
Dumbs arent allowed to post so pls shut ass
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Hyperzon2 on February 06, 2018, 09:18:44 pm
Dumbs arent allowed to post so pls shut ass
ayyyy mami no ban from here plzzz, mami u have to know this is not ban apeal or report which is only 2 sides are involved in [staff and u)
this is an open topic okay nippon u good now dumbass
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 06, 2018, 10:05:42 pm
i dont ask to not ban me, i just say that proofs are invalid and i gave mine, thats all. About hyperson, i think the ec ban made u my fan also :(
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Hyperzon2 on February 06, 2018, 10:11:03 pm
About hyperson, i think the ec ban made u my fan also :(
fan of 15years old teenager lole,, fuck ec man i had withdrawn my ban apeal there go and see mami bcz its a shity server/staff, where staff let hackers play, you are a good example jehahah
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: NewK on February 06, 2018, 11:06:02 pm
Zkq I'm not accusing you of helping to develop hacks here. I'm accusing you of using hacks like this picture proves:
(https://i.imgur.com/uJ5S1Fs.png)
Why would you even say that if you did not  use it in servers like you say? The only reason you would say that is if you did use it in servers.


This seems to be the most feasible solution currently imo, isn't it possible to script a copy of Google's CAPTCHA?
You don't necessarily have to have a integral of 'did he hit said person in the head or not' it's just simply mouse movement you need to be looking at.
Even with a lead aim aimlock, it would still be detectable due to the fact that a computer can't aim like a human does and vice versa.
The only problem that might occur is the fact that said script would be working on time intervals which means that you will have to have this run and check at like 1000 times a second to make it viable.
Is this feasible? I don't know. Is this going to impact server/script performance? I don't know.
It needs testing but I'm certain that this would be the easiest way to go about it.
The thing is, google captcha uses alot of techniques to detect bots which are not limited to mouse movement alone. They also take a look at your google search history (if they detect an account exists) and cookies stored on your browser from other of their services (google drive, gmail, hangouts, etc...). Even after all of that there's still situations where their detection fails. Such solutions never have a 100% success rate, which is normal. Such detection methods might have an impact on performance yes, but more on the client than on the server. Meaning, players with bad pc's might notice this hit depending on how low the timer interval making these calculations is. Seeing as detecting mouse movement would probably catch alot of false positives, there might be some strain on the server too, since every time we detect a possible "hacker", we'd have to send this information to the server, although this wouldn't be a problem for servers made using languages that support threads, like servers made in C++ or Java, since they could off-load some of this load to background threads.

It's sending to server OnPlayerCrashDump, even with game_reportcrashes 0 in user's config. I've tested it with few hacks. And about .exe's hacks - some of it not even listed there. However it may be useful as I said above.
Hmm, yea in that case it may be useful indeed for some other situations.
Measuring mouse movement is possible after each shot
Each frame.
Yeah that's possible too, but I believe this might lead to even further false positives. Not to say that it should be completely ignored though. It should be looked into for sure. Although it might not seem as easy as it looks. It's been quite a  while since I last used assembly but I've already reverse engineered some sections of the aimbot and ran it through a debugger. There were some "protections" put in place by the creator that disabled the aimbot the moment a debugger was attached to the process. It didn't took me long to bypass these "protections" and a more experienced assembly user could probably have done it even faster. Unfortunately my free time is getting even shorter as of late, so I haven't looked into it anymore yet. But what I mean by not being as easy as it looks is that the aimlock doesn't exactly lock into the player the moment their nametag is on the screen. The mouse/crosshair needs to be relatively close to the enemy players' nametag for it to lock into the player. This was obviously made this way to be harder for others to notice and to be harder for scripts that track sudden mouse movements to detect aswell. But the hard part here might not be detecting suspicious mouse movements, but instead keeping the amount of false positives to a minimum. Because detecting it becomes useless if the amount of false positives becomes so high that you can't differentiate the clean players from the hackers.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 07, 2018, 11:44:56 am
@Newk , check your pm please.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Brian on February 07, 2018, 11:54:53 am
Measuring mouse movement is possible after each shot
Each frame.
Yeah that's possible too, but I believe this might lead to even further false positives. Not to say that it should be completely ignored though. It should be looked into for sure. Although it might not seem as easy as it looks. It's been quite a  while since I last used assembly but I've already reverse engineered some sections of the aimbot and ran it through a debugger. There were some "protections" put in place by the creator that disabled the aimbot the moment a debugger was attached to the process. It didn't took me long to bypass these "protections" and a more experienced assembly user could probably have done it even faster. Unfortunately my free time is getting even shorter as of late, so I haven't looked into it anymore yet. But what I mean by not being as easy as it looks is that the aimlock doesn't exactly lock into the player the moment their nametag is on the screen. The mouse/crosshair needs to be relatively close to the enemy players' nametag for it to lock into the player. This was obviously made this way to be harder for others to notice and to be harder for scripts that track sudden mouse movements to detect aswell. But the hard part here might not be detecting suspicious mouse movements, but instead keeping the amount of false positives to a minimum. Because detecting it becomes useless if the amount of false positives becomes so high that you can't differentiate the clean players from the hackers.
You know, combining my idea with what Vito said I believe it would make a strong case against it.
If this script is to be made it should be looking for patterns (especially the case with the lead aim variant) because like I said, no machine is capable of replicating a human's way of moving/aiming a mouse and vice versa.
The key is still to completely reverse engineer the aimlock and uncover how exactly it works and moves the cursor. Once you've done this you can most likely find a if not more patterns in relation to its movement and easily isolate and ban the users of it. This in combination with maybe opponent's position and hit registration might make it even stronger.
Resources should not be a problem if servers are not experiencing performance issues because of it (pakis with PCs that are not capable of playing this game at 20 FPS should not be playing the game to begin with) and I believe the impact is small to nonexistent.
I'm more than happy and willing to test this with you and I believe I have the resources to replicate any player's movement from very low sensitivity up to very high standards like mine with 16000 DPI.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 07, 2018, 12:00:20 pm
What about injecting in the new update some files which run in windows and gives informations about programs/files who run and make changement to the server except the vcmp files.

For ex, creating a file and in the next update we download it, this file runs in our windows system and gives informations about all programs who can run with vcmp like trainer,aimlock,speed gear, etc..

When someone uses aimlock , a PM will be sent to Managers and developers and giving informations about the player and the stuff which he uses


This is  a possible thing that you can do it.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Brian on February 07, 2018, 12:03:53 pm
That is illegal and will require a EULA type of agreement which nobody will accept to.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 07, 2018, 12:05:48 pm
I guess a bot which shows if someone uses a software which affects the game?

Like Human he made a script which calculates the speed of the player.


I think its possible, just make a group of scripters and start working on it.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Brian on February 07, 2018, 12:14:36 pm
I guess a bot which shows if someone uses a software which affects the game?

Like Human he made a script which calculates the speed of the player.


I think its possible, just make a group of scripters and start working on it.
That is the same method that me and Vito proposed.
The way Human's script works or rather Charley's script (he made the first version years ago) is by checking how much distance a player has traveled within certain intervals compared to a 'baseline'.
http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=1977.msg20501#msg20501
http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=4463.msg53368#msg53368
^This is in fact the baseline, exceed the baseline and 'boom', you got banned.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Sszx on February 07, 2018, 12:16:05 pm
well shit

i think you should focus on player bans first, aimlock blocking is hard
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: vito69 on February 07, 2018, 12:40:45 pm
What about injecting in the new update some files which run in windows and gives informations about programs/files who run and make changement to the server except the vcmp files.
Then none of normal people will run vc-mp outside virtual machine. 
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 07, 2018, 02:55:09 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/XjN6Mv4.png)

never used hacks?
queen of vcmp?
lmao xD
mf its u this
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Sszx on February 07, 2018, 08:49:49 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/XjN6Mv4.png)

never used hacks?
queen of vcmp?
lmao xD
mf its u this

1)i can't access LW anymore, if you dunno they implemented nice system and i dont bother to ban evade anymore, dont need to play there.
2) it may be, according to you, someone else.
but if it was someone else, i guess you would be innocent and you wouldnt have been in this aimlock business with thorax neither.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 07, 2018, 09:17:04 pm
ask lw staff they know it was u,

stop barking u small shit
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 07, 2018, 09:26:00 pm
https://imgur.com/a/8ceqJ

that periode u were evading all the time and u always said that u will join with my nick.

Believe me, i dont have any hack history and i wont have.









You still cant find a reason to ban me, and now getting some shits that you did and accusing me for . 12 years kid
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Sszx on February 08, 2018, 02:21:56 pm
https://imgur.com/a/8ceqJ

that periode u were evading all the time and u always said that u will join with my nick.

Believe me, i dont have any hack history and i wont have.









You still cant find a reason to ban me, and now getting some shits that you did and accusing me for . 12 years kid


no?

well what about this?
(https://i.imgur.com/YKM19n4.png)

so check it out, didnt you say let's go test aimlock?
what nick?
KantolasV.03 ( later changed to KantolasV.3)
Then what happen? you gave server ip.

149.56.143.129:8192
isn't that XS evolution beta?
(edit: it was supposed to be first test server, but they said it's not good, check video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUZCXlGoRiA)
in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RKk6LFqjUU
( avoided to give original link due to aimlock link in description)
Check this:
(https://i.imgur.com/tYmtWXQ.png)
What was your nick?
And what was that server?
Oh your nick - KantolasV.3 ( which you mentioned in conversation with Thorax).
Server? XS Evolution beta, current ip  149.56.143.129:8192 ( changed some numbers)
and also, check this moment in video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RKk6LFqjUU
moment 0:35
does that look like normal skill to you?
no, you came there to test 0.5v with Thorax.

Server ip and your nick available at minute 1:34
busted.
anything else to say before your name is displayed in ban list?
original video link pm'ed to Newk.


EDIT:
you should watch the entire conversation between [MD]Zkq and Enigma1994
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUZCXlGoRiA

& also
I've mistaken here:
Quote
Server? XS Evolution beta, current ip  149.56.143.129:8192 ( changed some numbers)
pic proving that server you was called by thorax is actually evolution beta (sorry my mind was racing)
(https://i.imgur.com/ImC9GSM.png)

check that server ip, it's same as XS evolution beta.
At that point you two went to test the aimlock.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 08, 2018, 04:27:11 pm
All this shit you replied now was the testcwith him. I didnt use aimbot against players.

Simple reply.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Sszx on February 08, 2018, 04:54:42 pm
All this shit you replied now was the testcwith him. I didnt use aimbot against players.

Simple reply.
(https://i.imgur.com/uJ5S1Fs.png)
Why would you even say that if you did not  use it in servers like you say? The only reason you would say that is if you did use it in servers.

you just said contrary to yourself.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 08, 2018, 05:02:41 pm
I ll stop taling here as ive answered about everything to Newk on his pm.

I dont want to repeat the same things 10K times for someone who has a plastic brain like hunting
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Hyperzon2 on February 08, 2018, 05:08:14 pm
I ll stop taling here as ive answered about everything to Newk on his pm.

I dont want to repeat the same things 10K times for someone who has a plastic brain like hunting
unfortunately u got nothing to say indeed.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Sszx on February 08, 2018, 05:15:57 pm
I ll stop taling here as ive answered about everything to Newk on his pm.

I dont want to repeat the same things 10K times for someone who has a plastic brain like hunting

yeah, everything works via pm, nothing going on here,isn't it?
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: NewK on February 08, 2018, 11:51:01 pm
The fact that thorax leaked these logs must mean that he did infact do something against him (like sharing the aimlock with server owners). Tell me Hunting, why did he give you these logs?


Zkq, I still find your explanation to the "don't tell anyone I use aimlock" quote very poor. Please provide these screenshots:
https://imgur.com/a/spelM
As phone screenshots or just in video form, since these can be edited very easily on the browser. If you don't want to share the real FB names publicly, just blur that part on the screenshots or simply PM me the screenshots.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 09, 2018, 06:26:07 am
Sure, give me 24h cuz im not free in the moment
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: ELK on February 09, 2018, 08:49:05 am
Take your time but do post the video or w/e it is, on this thread not pm.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Sszx on February 09, 2018, 11:37:02 am
The fact that thorax leaked these logs must mean that he did infact do something against him (like sharing the aimlock with server owners). Tell me Hunting, why did he give you these logs?


Zkq, I still find your explanation to the "don't tell anyone I use aimlock" quote very poor. Please provide these screenshots:
https://imgur.com/a/spelM
As phone screenshots or just in video form, since these can be edited very easily on the browser. If you don't want to share the real FB names publicly, just blur that part on the screenshots or simply PM me the screenshots.

ye, he pissed thorax off for not crediting him for aimlock.
he used it for his own personal "consumption" as far as i know


i asked him personally for these logs & full convo and i leaked it, nothing much,
it's not really leaked upon thorax behalf.
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Forlove on February 09, 2018, 07:06:57 pm
damn, ctf forum gets active when someone reports me :O
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: Sszx on February 10, 2018, 04:00:39 pm
damn, ctf forum gets active when someone reports me :O

Active full of your asslicking maybe
Title: Re: More info about ZKQ
Post by: NewK on February 11, 2018, 06:33:36 pm
Zkq has sent me video proof of the screenshots he posted in which there's proof that he was infact working with EC to get information about the aimlock. I've also recently found out he has worked with EC in the past too (in summer 2017, before aimlock) to uncover other types of hacks and to get them information about it. Therefore I don't really believe that he has used aimlock for "personal consumption" at all, but instead to gather information that he could pass on to EC scripters, therefore, there will be no bans.

Nonetheless, I appreciate the help of everyone who provided information for this case.