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Round 1 / Re: WK vs Slayers
« on: November 22, 2015, 06:04:33 pm »
Nobody from Slayers has shown after 60 minutes of waiting.

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Round 1 / Re: WK vs Slayers
« on: November 21, 2015, 02:15:02 pm »
Docks (Western spawn)
Airport Interior (Random spawn)
Court versus House (Mercedes spawn)

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Round 1 / Re: Awesome Bastards vs Assassin Gang
« on: November 19, 2015, 05:20:02 pm »
i think you guys should meet up in real, beat the heck out of each other as teams, record it and show us so we can come to the result regarding who goes to the next round.
Agreed. The best solution in this case 8)

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Round 1 / Re: WK vs Slayers
« on: November 16, 2015, 07:31:38 pm »
22 GMT is too late for us.
17-18 GMT is the most suitable time I think.

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Round 1 / Re: WK vs Slayers
« on: November 16, 2015, 06:05:58 pm »
Are we going to play this match?

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Round 1 / Re: WK vs Slayers
« on: November 11, 2015, 01:49:06 pm »
We won't be able to play this weekend. What about next sunday (November 22th)?

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Round 1 / Re: WK vs Slayers
« on: November 01, 2015, 12:42:38 pm »
How about this Saturday (7.11.15) 18 GMT?

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Clan Wars/Matches / Re: WK vs DnA
« on: October 22, 2015, 09:09:45 pm »
As I said before, we accept the fact that DnA has problems with activity of it's members as a reality.

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Just to confirm this, are you officially withdrawing your challenge?
It was mistake from my side to use word "matter". I wanted to say "But it doesn't mean that we're withdrawing our challenge".
Despite this we (or at least I) won't push DnA about the date due to reasons that were stated above.

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Team Applications / [Accepted] WK
« on: October 21, 2015, 04:12:58 pm »
Team name: WK
Team members: 210W, [OFF]Tom, UJIbU4, XTM, =TRC=morphine
Substitutes: Yuri.PSI, [ON]552X (and any other ON member), KakaroT, V2X
Forums/IRC channel where we can contact your team: www.wkvcmp.yzi.me / irc.gtanet.com #H&H

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Clan Wars/Matches / Re: WK vs DnA
« on: October 21, 2015, 04:11:13 pm »
I think they don't have answers for our questions, Morphine.
Situation around this match gives enough food for thoughts, so I'd like to share mine.

I really hope that the situation with their squad isn't a political move in order to avoid this match and save DnA's image. But looks like it is. Even if they didn't intend so.
DnA has already gotten it's portion of disgrace so I'm not going to put them deeper in shame (although I have enough ways (most of them are provided by one of it's member's loundmouth) to do it) or reproach them. I'll simply share my vision of this situatuion based on the fact that DnAs are really have problems with an activity of their's members that can be considered as unfortunate set of circumstances that disables DnA from playing with us and puts them out of competitiveness. I'm not going to troll them, but I'm sure that some parts of my post may pique DnA members.
At 21th august I said to 210W: "They will fight with us only if they are confident in their's power and ability to defeat us. They won't play without it". Time has shown that these words were predictive. By saying "we will fight when our squad is ready" you put this match in a situation of uncertainty (which is probably perpetual). Why is it so? I'll explain.
The necessary condition of this match's happening is DnA's squad being ready. Readiness of it is decided by DnA. So situation around this match happening fully depends on DnA's decision. A decision that, in my opinion, according to specified condition will never be made. And there are some objective reasons of it.
1. DnA will never be ready. There are also some objective reasons of it, but I won't elaborate them all because it requires deep analysis of DnA's and community's essence and understanding the roots of WK's dominance, so it will take too much time. So I'll simply bring it into one conclusion: DnA hasn't enough potential and perspective to achieve WK's level. Not only because it's internal characters but also due to current VC:MP conjuncture. Krystiano, being a smart member and the person who knows WK better than anyone in this community, probably understands what I'm trying to say.
2. It's a risk for DnA. Imagine situation when DnA decided to play and lost 8-0. We cannot exclude such an option. Months of training and preparation, all the drama around this match and it's delayings and... still 8-0. That will be diseaster for DnA. Taking into account first point and this, I can say that specified decision that DnA has to make will be very hard and responsible. Thus it's easier to keep this situation in uncertanity and maintain current status-quo than play a hard (morally also) match.

In the beginning of my post I said that current circumstances is a political move even if DnA didn't intend so. I'll elaborate. They're winning the time by delayings. Who knows when DnA will be ready (will they?)? What if they will be ready when CTF gamemode will become outdated or will change significantly? What if DnA will be ready when WK become inactive or even loose interest towards this game? You never know what will happen in future. You can only guess. What will be VC:MP after half a year or even more? Could you predict all this situation about CTF and clan matches 6 months earlier? No. Nobody knows what will happen.
In a process of time many people will probably forget about WK vs DnA. DnA will stay de-facto unbeaten. Maybe someday you'll be ready. Maybe you'll create some sutatble for DnA (i.e. for Krystiano who is the basement of all DnA's victories) maps.
In short words: life is a motion. And motion exists in time. And DnA has gained the time.

What I've written above (briefly) was behind my question "What if DnA will never be ready"? But looks like nobody from DnA don't know the answer and, I'm afraid, this match will never happen only due to DnA's fear of defeat.
But it doesn't matter that we're withdrawing our challenge.

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General Discussion / Re: WK vs DnA (Discussion)
« on: October 14, 2015, 04:50:42 pm »
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[09:54:00] <%Fercho> I suppose they will start to challenge every single big clan to show their "power"
[09:54:11] <Freak> ^
[09:54:19] <%Bryce> no power at all
You cant really expect any winner of WK vs DnA yet as both teams are on top.
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[09:11:17] -> Admin Bryce: DnAs are better than WK

That logic ???

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Clan Wars/Matches / Re: WK vs DnA
« on: October 14, 2015, 04:39:20 pm »
What if DnA will never be ready?

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Clan Wars/Matches / Re: WK vs DnA
« on: October 13, 2015, 06:17:42 pm »
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[16:47:52] <[TDH]Tom> Hi Bryce
[16:47:58] <[TDH]Tom> What do you want to discuss?
[18:05:11] <Bryce> hi
[18:09:05] <Bryce> go check ctf forum post
[18:25:38] <[TDH]Tom> Ok, I have a few questions
[18:25:51] <[TDH]Tom> Are you in charge to represent DnA in our discussion?
[18:37:07] <[TDH]Tom> I've had a connection abort, once again:
[18:37:09] <[TDH]Tom> [18:25:38] <[TDH]Tom> Ok, I have a few questions
[18:37:09] <[TDH]Tom> [18:25:51] <[TDH]Tom> Are you in charge to represent DnA in our discussion?
[19:09:08] * [TDH]Tom slaps Bryce around a bit with a large trout
[19:36:34] <Bryce> what
[19:36:54] <[TDH]Tom> [18:25:38] <[TDH]Tom> Ok, I have a few questions
[19:36:54] <[TDH]Tom> [18:25:51] <[TDH]Tom> Are you in charge to represent DnA in our discussion?
[19:37:27] <Bryce> 1<Bryce> thats DnA's discussion
[19:37:27] <Bryce> 01<Bryce> not yours, you made yours
[19:37:27] <Bryce> 01<Bryce> we are unable to get our members due to their inactivity
[19:37:27] <Bryce> 01<Bryce> also dont depend on krystinaoo
[19:37:27] <Bryce> 01<Bryce> hes not going to play clan war
[19:37:43] <Bryce> you seem kinda stressed, I sent you these messages for like 70 mins ago
[19:37:53] <[TDH]Tom> I didn't get them
[19:38:00] <[TDH]Tom> I've had connection abort
[19:38:07] <Bryce> not my fault
[19:38:12] <[TDH]Tom> Ok
[19:38:41] <[TDH]Tom> I don't get your answer about your position during this discussion
[19:38:55] <[TDH]Tom> Do you represent DnA here OFFICALLY?
[19:39:02] <Bryce> yes
[19:39:10] <[TDH]Tom> Ok next question
[19:39:18] <[TDH]Tom> Why clan war hasn't been played during last two months?
[19:39:44] <Bryce> stop acting like kids, we wanted to have clan wars with other clans first
[19:39:50] <Bryce> as we dont really care about WK that much
[19:39:58] <Bryce> now our squad is broken and it's not that hard to understand
[19:40:09] <Bryce> you aren't a clan, you are just a group of a few guys
[19:40:16] <Bryce> we did challenged official vcmp clans
[19:40:20] <[TDH]Tom> You squad wasn't broken 2 months ago
[19:40:29] <[TDH]Tom> We challenged you first
[19:40:54] <Bryce> you challenged almost every clan in vcmp and none of them played with you yet
[19:41:02] <[TDH]Tom> Everyone is scared
[19:41:03] <Bryce> except SS
[19:41:14] <[TDH]Tom> And avoiding to play with top of VCLMP
[19:41:27] <Bryce> you aren't even a clan
[19:41:31] <Bryce> good luck with your thinking
[19:41:51] <Bryce> #1 has been DnA always
[19:41:58] <[TDH]Tom> Will DnA avoid this match?
[19:42:10] <Bryce> thisn't called avoiding, we are short on members
[19:42:28] <Bryce> we will have match as soon as our squad is ready
[19:42:54] <[TDH]Tom> Quite interesting situation
[19:43:15] <Bryce> did you ask VUs whey they aren't playing with you?
[19:43:27] <Bryce> they have a bunch of members to pass your time
[19:43:37] <[TDH]Tom> We've lsot interest to play with such noobs
[19:43:46] <[TDH]Tom> IKf we'll do it, we'll do it for fun
[19:43:49] <Bryce> and dont tell me you are pro than us
[19:43:57] <[TDH]Tom> WK will rape DnA
[19:44:05] <[TDH]Tom> You know it
[19:44:11] <Bryce> well I usually rape you in-game
[19:44:14] <Bryce> you deny that?
[19:44:17] <[TDH]Tom> Everybody from your pseudo-clan know it
[19:44:29] <[TDH]Tom> Anyway, back to the deal
[19:44:35] <Bryce> <Bryce> well I usually rape you in-game
[19:44:35] <Bryce> <Bryce> you deny that?
[19:44:38] <Bryce> this is the deal
[19:44:40] <[TDH]Tom> What is the deadline of the match, after which there will be DnA's technical defeat 8-0?
[19:47:51] <[TDH]Tom> ...
[19:59:51] <Bryce> stop being kiddish
[20:00:52] <[TDH]Tom> Will you name deatline?

Since you don't want to have a substantive private conversation I'm forced to post everything here.
You ignored my last question, so I'm repeating it here:
What is the deadline of the match, after which there will be DnA's technical defeat 8-0?

I don't believe in your tales about "our squad is broken". It's been two months since we challenged you second time. You've had enough time to have a match and now you suddenly have "broken squad".
Quite an interesting situation especially in the light of this:
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[09:11:17] -> Admin Bryce: DnAs are better than WK

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[09:01:17] [SS]Nilz: bryce
[09:01:22] [SS]Nilz: will you fight against wk
[09:01:23] [SS]Nilz: in cw?
[09:01:29] -> Admin Bryce: sure lol
[09:01:33] -> Admin Bryce: whats big deal

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Clan Wars/Matches / Re: WK vs DnA
« on: October 13, 2015, 02:45:59 pm »
We challenged DnA two months ago and have already discussed everything except the date that Krystiano intended to post.
My first message about clarifying this situation had been ignored and then I posted it second time.
Is it too hard to post a date?

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Clan Wars/Matches / Re: WK vs DnA
« on: October 12, 2015, 03:28:55 pm »

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